Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Video: Radioactive rain and contamination in Saint Louis Missouri 3/29/11

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Description updated 4/6/11

Known facts:

(1) the fallout read 0.228 mR/Hr

(2) the sample was a very few drops of rain water from my SUV

(3) Roughly 2.5 days later the sample showed no radioactivity.


(1) If this Fallout blew in from Fukushima, it may have been dangerously radioactive over California.

(2) The fallout may have been Iodine 123 produced from nuclear spallation of Cesium 133 via Solar Proton Bombardment

(3) Given Conjecture #2, the source of the Cesium 133 was the decay product of Fukushima produced Xenon 133

For the details on the sample please continue reading below.

Keep your kids and pets out of the rain!

The video is copyrighted and may not be reproduced with out express permission of "pissiontheroses".

The video shows the radioactive result of a VERY FEW drops of rain which drizzled out of the sky and down onto an SUV on 3/29/11 in Saint Louis Missouri. The rain drops were mopped up off of the hood with a paper towel and a radioactivity reading was taken with a "Radalert Inspector".

It is definately concerning how hot a FEW rain drops of Fukushima fallout can be 9000 miles and several days away from its source in Japan. We were quite surprised how hot the sample was relative to the radioactive snow we measured last week. This sample of radioactive drizzle maxed out and stabilized at 0.228 millirems per hour. Unfortunately, I am unable to identify if the source is Cesium 137, Iodine 131, Iodine 129, Plutonium, or any number of radionuclides the can easily be absorbed through the skin,lungs or stomach. The risk is not so much being exposed to 0.228 mR/Hr in passing, it is eating, inhaling, absorbing, or ingesting the radioactive source of that radiation. It is the difference between getting an X-ray and eating the X-ray machine.

In the short term, we keep our children out of the fallout rain and snow. We make sure our pets and their water bowls are not exposed to the radioactive fallout. Moreover, the greater risk is prolonged radionuclide fallout and environmental contamination over an on going period of months; it would be a death by a thousand cuts, as plants and animals absorb, concentrate, and pass radioactive fallout into our food chain.

If there was ever a year to pray for drought, this is it! Sadly even in the best case scenarios, it would be wise to expect an entire spring rainy season of this kind of fallout; It is likely that Fukushima will produce fallout to rain down on us for many months to come. Take what precautions you can; expect to the EPA to "protect you" and address this issue by raising safe limits for radioactive contamination.


  1. Thank you for this video. I have a question for you. What do you know about the PM1703M radiation detection device? I have one here in Portland Oregon and for the past week I have not got any activity. This device stays pretty constant inside at 6 uR/h - 8 uR/h. It actually drops when I go outside to 3 uR/h - 4 ur/h and goes up slighly to 9 uR/h - 11 uR/h when I set it on the granite countertops in our kitchen. My question is, will this device pick up the many radioactive fallouts coming to the West Coast? We set it on the car hood on rainy days and no change. We also set it on the lawn and no change. It came with a radioactive key chain and it does react to that so it's working but I'm questioning why I'm not getting the reaction you show in your video as we also have been hit very hard by radioactive rain. I don't want to have false assurance with this device. I"m not looking for doom and gloom but I have to very small children at home and want to be sure of their safety. If you have knowledge of this device, please share.

    Thank you!

  2. Christine,
    I looked up the specs for your unit. It is a gamma detector. It won't pick up beta or alpha emmissions. It is not suitable for detecting contamination of food products. It may be more sensitive to I123 than my unit.

    Try testing FRESH rain the same way I did in my video by drying off a smooth hard surface with a paper towel. Fold the damp towel up to about the same size as your unit, and pointing the audio output of your device towards the wettened paper towel; take a reading.

    The readings you quote from inside your house would lead me to believe that you potentially have a Radon problem in your home caused by the granite counter tops. That is probably your biggest known threat at the moment.

  3. Ms. X

    OK, you got my heart fluttering over the radon. I have a nursing baby and toddler at home. Our very large kitchen is covered in granite. The device does start rattling every time I put it on the countertops. It goes to 10 and 11 uR/h in some hot spots but mostly reads at 9 uR/h which I understand to be 48 CPM is that too high?

    Please be straight with me, the safety of our babies are most important, I will move in a heartbeat if this is the case?

  4. I found this.....hmmm, Bq/m3...gee whiz all this stuff is so difficult to understand.

    Do you know what Bq/m3 = in uR/h?

    The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) considers 148 Bq/m3 as the maximum safe concentration level of radon.

    The European Union places the limit higher, at 200 Bq/m3.

    In Canada, health officials state that 800 Bq/m3 is the highest acceptable concentration but a lower limit is currently being researched.

  5. Christine,
    I would not be super worried about the radon. I suspect the actual threat from Radon is somewhat over blown, and it is not that difficult or expensive to mitigate.

    I have nursing child in my home and small children in my home so I understand your concerns. I think the thing that will give you the most comfort is to buy a "Safety Siren Pro Series HS71512 3 Radon Gas Detector". It is relatively cheap at $130 and you can find it Amazon. (I have one in my home). It will give you that tools to let you know if you need to get radon remediation, and the comfort of knowing if the remediation worked (if needed).

    In regards to the conversion you asked, it is a difficult thing to do because they are measuring different things. One measures the number of disintegrations per unit time of a radionuclide based on a unit of volume, the other measures a dosage rate. To do the conversion requires knowing the actual radionuclide and information about its radioactive spectrum (and even then that math ain't easy).

    You already have better tools to assess your risk situation than the vast majority of other people, that gives you the capability to make cost efficient trades of risk versus cost. Fortunately you have a long time to mitigate any radon risk you MAY have, so no worries.

    The key thing to remember is to not let your greater ability to accurately measure radioactivity with the tools you have over magnify the threat of those risks. The prudent thing to do is have a cost effective risk mitigation plan, buying more dried milk is a good example of a reasonable precaution.

  6. Nice video. How much is that geiger counter and where can we buy one?

  7. It's completely obvious how you edited this video and faked those readings. Its pretty easy to spot your dumb antics. Your lack of understanding on Alpha, Beta and Gamma contamination shows. Crapping up the water with Gamma was obvious. What did you use? Pithcblend- Thorite? If I didn't know your meter and it's capabilities I would be sending a Hazmat team to your house. Instead filing criminal charges is what you can expect.

    Putting your kids in the hoax was even worse. CPS get's into that mess. I would delete this entire blog and your youtube posts. It's clear you're peddling your amazon sponsored links for profit. Amazon is going you yank your account.

    You're lucky your house, car and kids are not going to be quarantined for the next 200 years. Seriously, You don't fake shit like that unless you want you to be probed by 20 agencies and placed behind bars.

  8. Oh and you can also say goodbye to your Google account. That one has already been reported.

  9. Brad Parsons,

    The manufactuers's link
    They run around $700, and it looks like there is atleast a 2 month wait. However, since this ordeal is going to be going on for at least months, it might be worth it to get on the list.

    The key is to find a unit suitable for inspecting food.

  10. How did Anonymous leave a message on this page, if you don't allow Anonymous posts?

    The Anonymous posts look to be bogus, what was the source?


  11. Did you consider the possibility that anonymous comments were originally allowed on the site, but the policy changed because of abusive anonymous comments?